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 Saints have released their accounts for the last season at Knowsley Road (financial year to October, 2010). The key points are:
 
 - Losses are up by £500,000 to £1.38m, and total more than £3m in the last four years
 
 - Turnover basically flat (£4.83m v £4.88m in 2009), which is £1m below its 2006 peak
 
 - Sale price of Knowsley Road to Taylor Wimpey was renegotiated down by £1.625m
 
 - Wage bill was 79% of turnover
 
 - Eamonn McManus criticises the club’s management for its commercial failings, writing “it was particularly disappointing that full advantage was not taken of the commercial opportunities availed to the club from its last year at its historic Knowsley Road home.”
 
 - The board plans another debt-for-equity conversion
 
 It all makes for very sobering reading.
 
 Here's the last dozen years, other people can judge whether this year's loss is worse than previous, and whether the trend in recent years is one we should be concerned about:
 
 1999 -£569,205
 2000 -£1,557,767
 2001 -£940,745
 2002 -£871,672
 2003 -£376,699
 2004 +£137,627
 2005 -£31,161
 2006 -£259,238
 2007 -£400,348
 2008 -£449,288
 2009 -£861,810
 2010 -£1,384,706
 
 An interesting discussion is now taking place, a worry for the game ?
 
 
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 If we didn't receive any revenue from it, it wouldn't be worth employing the staff to manage it.'"
 
I didnt think we did, its all a part of the stadium management isnt it? | 
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Understand that, but what I am talking about is the turnover (income and revenue coming into the club), not the profit after costs (the things you mention would be costs). The c£4.6m turnover figure looks low to me. |