Sorry, I'm not having that. What weve seen with Trump and now Johnson is lying on an industrial scale. Sadly, there is a percentage of the electorate that only read the headlines, they dont do detail - and as with Brexit they have been hoovered up and encouraged to vote for something that will make their lives even tougher.

More socialist bollox, YOU LOST!



But don't worry, the Yawnions will protectt you.

Can you think of any members of this forum, who are an example of this section of the electorate

Surely, if brexit turns out in accordance with Johnson's promises then weve all won. Havent we?

Democracy won, full stop.

Democracy won, full stop.

So, we may be worse off financially and culturally but if that's what the majority want so be it?

Culture is subjective, finance has yet to be seen. That is how democracy works, the MAJORITY get their way.



how does leaving the EU impact us culturally out of interest?

Are you sure about that?



Didn’t the leave camp lose the popular vote at the election?

Not in any results I have seen.

It already appears to have had an impact in that weve become a more openly racist society.

It's open to interpretation. If we assume all Labour voters are remainers and all Tory voters are leavers then the pro remain parties took 53% of the overall vote. This appears to be backed up by an opinion poll in today's Independent which has a 52/48 split in favour of remain.

Which makes it so much sweeter that people such as Gina Miller know the same and are fecking devastated.





And the rest.

and your evidence of this is....?

This is strange. Many Brexiters accept that there are no financial benefits in leaving the EU and now you appear to be happy that the process of leaving wasnt democratic. Youre clearly the type of person the Tories rely upon.

You do know that he is Nigel Farage

The process of the vote was very democratic - one person one vote. Lies were equally as bad on both sides - the leave vote was never about money it was always out control and managing immigration. Monies paid into the EU at £9bn is tiny for a country of our size yes it would be useful but we have heard of us paying £39bn to leave!!

I'm not going to convince you and vice versa. The UK remains split down the middle. I've never experienced this degree of public disatifaction before with regards to a "democratic" result. So, what's different this time?

There is no difference to the fact you are making stuff up, funny thpugh, keep going.

Not so fast there “standee” or whatever your other (banned?) nicks are.





Boris Johnson put his “oven baked” deal to the public at the election and it was soundly rejected in the popular vote, 1 person 1 vote.

So where is the justification for ignoring that democratic fact?

?????

The election was a General Election, not a referendum.

So, theres no mandate for Johnsons deal?

The mandate to leave the EU came from the referendum, I know it doesn't suit you, but YOU LOST, stop whining, it's like a 4 year old who has been told they have to go to bed.

We could have done with IR80 posting on some of the threads after the Challenge Cup final, when Saints fans were moaning about the ref.



IR80 would have been good at delivering a consistent message that I wanted to get over.

Lost? I thought we'd all won? Cant wait for the 1st February to find out what weve actually won.