Personally I think the Welsby one was a bad one, looked clear direct shoulder to head and he should probably have seen red in the game. If they don't ban him then they may as well come out and say they don't care about player welfare. 6 inches down and it would have been an awesome hit, but it wasn't.



Knowles has to serve at least a couple of games for that, it's the sort of hold the police put you in to restrain you and he knew exactly what he was doing.

Why is it mad? I could fall flat on my and be fine but my feet could be above my head. If you think it's mad, probably best to explain why, or, well, you look mad?

I think in terms of tackling technic there will be many more occasions where the hips are above the head.



If a players legs are on the ground you can't physically spear or tip tackle them.



Lifting the legs is where the issue comes I. As it maybe fine bit it can easily go wrong as other players in the tackle and the tackled player themselves cant then control the tackle with forces moving in many different directions.



I think the refs have a duty here as if motion is stopped, the call for held should be quicker.



There are many times were the motion is stopped and whilst the players continue to wrestle no held is called, resulting in very late offloading or tacklers continuing to wrestle or lift in an attempt to complete the tackle.



For me if forward motion is stopped then that should be held.

Unbelievable. You must be the number one apologist on this forum.

What's unbelievable? Seriously, what did I post there that triggered you?

I found the whole day disappointing. no atmosphere outside, no act on before the start.

I found it all subdued compared to every other time I've been