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| Lets get real here, there is more chance of a Daily Mail headline being true than us winning all our remaining matches.
Leeds have one of the strongest sides I have seen for some time, to the extent that they have even been able to discard BJB. They ooze class in the backs, and in 14 games have only conceded 132 points. Wigan have lost a lot of top players but Wayne has drilled his young team to become a super fit set of robots. When they play they run themselves into the ground, sprinting of the defensive line, and putting half the team into every tackle. They look like a column of soldier ants overpowering a larger mammal. Yes, I agree both of them will lose the odd match, but barring a bad run of injuries or them meeting each other, I think both trophies are between these two teams.
We need to recruit (the problem is from where), because we need a nucleus of top quality players to build a team around, and bring on the younger kids. The most I am hoping for / expecting this year is a Wembly visit and 3-4 key signings before the start of next season.
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| They do Winslade. I was convinced at the beginning of the season that Leeds would sweep the board.
I didn't pay enough attention to the gamble of an ageing squad.
Are Leeds beginning to show the cracks and fatigue from keeping the old guard.
Let's look back at their results when they had to play a team were long levels of intensity mattered.
Saints beat them
Wigan beat them
Hudds drew
Cast lost as Leeds snatched it at the death.
Warrington took it to them and we didn't deserve to get beat follow a terrible game the week before.
I'm not making them up, it's all there, the form line says we should beat Leeds and beat them fairly comfortably.
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| We have beaten a hapless Catalan, a penalty strewn St Helens that virtually gave us the game in the opening 30 mins and a very poor wakefield side.
And now we could go the season unbeaten... even though we got beat at Bradford 3 weeks ago... obviously we are the form team of the competition.
I for one am looking forward to us winning the grand final.
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| We must have played awful rugby for the first half of the season to trick other teams into thinking we were not good enough, the second half of the season will be the real Wire and we will steamroll all who come before us......
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| Quote morleys_deckchair="morleys_deckchair"We have beaten a hapless Catalan, a penalty strewn St Helens that virtually gave us the game in the opening 30 mins and a very poor wakefield side.
And now we could go the season unbeaten... even though we got beat at Bradford 3 weeks ago... obviously we are the form team of the competition.
I for one am looking forward to us winning the grand final.'"
You can make excuses for every team we play but the bottom line is you can only beat what is in front of you.
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| Quote rubber duckie="rubber duckie"You can make excuses for every team we play but the bottom line is you can only beat what is in front of you.'"
if we had beaten Leeds, Wigan and Cas in the last 3 games, you could make a case for us being the form team in the competition.
However, we haven't beaten one of those sides yet.
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| Quote rubber duckie="rubber duckie"If Wire beat Leeds and we really intend to do be a
force, we really ought to be beating all these teams before us with our easy run in until then until the end of August.
Of course injury and suspension will play a part and if anyone took care to read my post I did point out that it would hinge on just that with the forwards.
Although no game is a gimme I do however think with our easy run that we will have after this Leeds game we shouldn't really have excuses for getting beat by them. Other than Castleford at home every team until Saints away us below us in the league.
Take a look through the remaining fixtures and which do you think we shouldn't beat on current form.
And Ninearches Westwood has only just come back into the team, we were doing just fine without him also.'" Oh so now your saying we could go unbeaten after the Leeds game now!You didn't mention that in your original post.As I say give your head a good bang on the wall then you might come to your senses.
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| Not at all. I will be very disappointed if we can't beat Leeds.
But every team other than Leeds Wigan and Castleford could argue have claims we ought to beat easily on current form and on us not losing forwards.
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| Quote rubber duckie="rubber duckie"Not at all. I will be very disappointed if we can't beat Leeds.
But every team other than Leeds Wigan and Castleford could argue have claims we ought to beat easily on current form and on us not losing forwards.'"
I am sorry RD but I am completely lost as to what point you are making here!
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| Sorry. Simply we don't have an excuse for not beating every other team above us on form other than Leeds Cas and pies.
And we ought to beat everyone else above us and below us.
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| Quote rubber duckie="rubber duckie"Not at all. I will be very disappointed if we can't beat Leeds.
But every team other than Leeds Wigan and Castleford could argue have claims we ought to beat easily on current form and on us not losing forwards.'" So with your high expectations then for Friday you'll hopefully have your excuses ready should we lose!To be honest I'm asking myself why am I biting as your just not talking sensibly.
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| Quote rubber duckie="rubber duckie"Sorry. Simply we don't have an excuse for not beating every other team above us on form other than Leeds Cas and pies.
And we ought to beat everyone else above us and below us.'"
in the ideal world, yes we should... But we haven't been great this season.. why is why we have been losing to those teams.
Next season hopefully we will have a few more new faces and we will be up there again... i would like to think it could be this season, but im not realistically thinking we will be.
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| I get your point about Westwood only just coming back into the side Ducky but until we beat Saints last week this forum was a bastion of mass panic & apoplectic debate as to who should go ,be brought in & how many days Smith had left !
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| Well if Wire get a good thrashing off Leeds then all your hopes of shutting RD up will be for filled. That unfortunately will please some for all the wrong reasons?!
I dish it on Wire when warranted. Up to a month ago I was giving it out as good as the rest of us, but up until that time, I never thought that TS would ever return Bridge to 6.
The best decision TS has done since shipping out Martin Gleeson.
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| Quote rubber duckie="rubber duckie"Well if Wire get a good thrashing off Leeds then all your hopes of shutting RD up will be for filled. That unfortunately will please some for all the wrong reasons?!.'"
im sure, in your head, that's how you think the world works....its whats known as having an over inflated value of self importance.
There are no Warrington fans that want us to lose to Leeds.. But if we do win, which we all hope will happen, you will be on here saying I TOLD YOU ALL IT WOULD HAPPEN.
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| Only joking RD, im sure you wouldn't do any such thing.....
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| Quote rubber duckie="rubber duckie"If Wire beat Leeds and we really intend to do be a
force, we really ought to be beating all these teams before us with our easy run in until then until the end of August.
Of course injury and suspension will play a part and if anyone took care to read my post I did point out that it would hinge on just that with the forwards.
Although no game is a gimme I do however think with our easy run that we will have after this Leeds game we shouldn't really have excuses for getting beat by them. Other than Castleford at home every team until Saints away us below us in the league.
Take a look through the remaining fixtures and which do you think we shouldn't beat on current form.
And Ninearches Westwood has only just come back into the team, we were doing just fine without him also.'"
You know what'll happen don't you Ducky?... We'll beat Leeds, we'll all get excited, then we'll lose to Salford at home a few weeks later!
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| Quote rubber duckie="rubber duckie"You can make excuses for every team we play but the bottom line is you can only beat what is in front of you.'"
Look at Huddersfield; 5 wins in a row against 4 non-Playoff calibre teams and a one point win over Cas. Then they go to Saints and get well beaten.
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| We're not Hudds and we battered them.
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| It really is our year then?
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| Quote rubber duckie="rubber duckie"Well if Wire get a good thrashing off Leeds then all your hopes of shutting RD up will be for filled. That unfortunately will please some for all the wrong reasons?!
I dish it on Wire when warranted. Up to a month ago I was giving it out as good as the rest of us, but up until that time, I never thought that TS would ever return Bridge to 6.
The best decision TS has done since shipping out Martin Gleeson.'"
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| Quote Fantastic Mr Cat="Fantastic Mr Cat"CONTRADICTION-TASTIC'"
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| Quote rubber duckie="rubber duckie"They do Winslade. I was convinced at the beginning of the season that Leeds would sweep the board.
I didn't pay enough attention to the gamble of an ageing squad.
Are Leeds beginning to show the cracks and fatigue from keeping the old guard.
Let's look back at their results when they had to play a team were long levels of intensity mattered.
Saints beat them
Wigan beat them
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Cast lost as Leeds snatched it at the death.
Warrington took it to them and we didn't deserve to get beat follow a terrible game the week before.
I'm not making them up, it's all there, the form line says we should beat Leeds and beat them fairly comfortably.'"
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| Quote runningman29="runningman29"I know something + that's you don't half post some tripe.So hold on your now saying Hills will only give you 9-2 to remain unbeaten for rest of the season?I'd bet you you'd get at least 20-1 + that's crap odds imo.So on the back of a few good results we're now world beaters who 'could' go through rest of the season unbeaten!Your prediction could even end this week nevermind any of the other tough games ahead.'"
Is your 250/1 still on offer. I'd like to double my bet with you please.
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| Quote rubber duckie="rubber duckie"Is your 250/1 still on offer. I'd like to double my bet with you please.'" Def.Would still give you them odds if I was a bookie which due to my record at betting its a good job I'm not.Don't be silly enough and think they're going to play the crest of the fixtures with the same intensity as last night as that in all likely hood won't happen.At the end of the day we were more hungrier for the win than Leeds were as you can usually tell if Wire are up for it in the 1st 10 mins which was evident for all to see to see last night but i'd have waited until season is over before digging this thread up as it will prob come back and bite you where the sun don't shine.
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