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| Quote CW8="CW8"He will be missing for 2 saints players bans end before the playoffs, teams playing against them. Miss players in case they meet saints. Eamon runs that disciplinary panel.'"
I think you may find that the Chairman of the Disciplinary Panel is Cooper’s Uncle!!!!!
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| Quote Mr Snoodle="Mr Snoodle".....and that answer is??
Seriously, I don't see what Charnley offers'"
Charnley wasn't the one out of contract. So it wasn't a straight choice.
Lineham was let go because of disciplinary issues and he was out of contract.
Price could have played Lineham tonight but he didn't. Powell could have insisted Lineham got a new contract, he didn't. They don't trust him, rightfully so.
In the last couple of years, Lineham has undoubtedly been better when he's on the pitch. But that's not been anywhere near often enough.
A little ironic saying that on a day Charnley got a yellow, but still . . .
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| Quote WalterWizard="WalterWizard"I think you may find that the Chairman of the Disciplinary Panel is Cooper’s Uncle!!!!!'"
Well saints get favouritism for sure. Makinson obvious squirrel grip gets fewer games than Lineham for alleged squirrel grip (I have no doubt that he did it but it wasn't caught on the sky cameras like Tommy's).
Cooper shouldn't get more games out than paasi, as it was a far, far lesser incident, but he probably will.
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| First 45 minutes we were very clinical, next 20 minutes all over the place, final 15 minutes our game management was very good.
Hope Cooper just gets a 1 game ban, but doubt it. High tackle on Ashton in 2nd half deserved a card, as Lineham got carded and then banned for a similar one against Saints.
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| I listened to it on BBC Radio Manchester, Dave Woods and Noble were raving about good Warrington were and how we were good for the the 26-0 lead. Praising our attack and defence. They were saying how poor the execution of Castleford was in the first half and also they let the emotion especially of a big guard of honour get to them. Which seems a fair analysis of the first half. I cant believe Clarke has said that if he did as i didnt hear it on Sky.
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| Quote WalterWizard="WalterWizard"I think you may find that the Chairman of the Disciplinary Panel is Cooper’s Uncle!!!!!'"
Well that won’t deter the conspiracy theorists on a certain other board!
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| Quote morrisseyisawire="morrisseyisawire"I thought we started to wobble when Austin came on, he looked like he was on a mission and not a mission to win the game.
At least we closed the game out with 12 men and got the last try, at one point I thought the SKY team was going to demand a recount.'"
Inclined to agree with this to a point. He is full of effort, but he’s not a second row forward unfortunately. Credit to him for putting his hand up to play where asked, but… we had a second row on the bench, a pretty good one in great form.
Wrench struggled with Matautia and JSL, if it wasn’t for that winger having an absolute stinker, it could have been different, so if Price was desperate to shoehorn Austin in, he could have put him there, but more realistically, it was a landslide when he came on, he should have took off Widdop/Williams/Ratchford for a break.
I do struggle with Price and his rationale behind “the fourth sub”. And I fear Ashton will be compelled to that spot next week in order to appease him for how he played, but to revert to plan A. It is just a waste though, another big body, even Doro, would be better on the bench if you’re not going to use the back. Let’s face it, it’s likely to be Sita, Walker, Mulhearn and Ashton next week though.
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| Quote morrisseyisawire="morrisseyisawire"I thought we started to wobble when Austin came on, he looked like he was on a mission and not a mission to win the game.
At least we closed the game out with 12 men and got the last try, at one point I thought the SKY team was going to demand a recount.'"
I agree. We conceded the first try but the main collapse came on the back of a needless Austin penalty on the fifth tackle resulting in another try.
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| I’ve no issue if Austo plays or not, so long as bench supremacy isn’t compromised. Nice guy is Blake, but I have zero grace and goodwill tolerance.
Austo was unplayable 3 years ago and absolutely nailed on for man of steel, he hasn’t been remotely near that form since his leg injury in the summer of 2019.
Widdop is absolutely massive for us and looks very comfortable with Ratchford and Williams. That fluidity isn’t there with Austo in the halves this season.
He made absolutely no difference to the team when he came on. Not that he should, as a replacement, you can only want for that and perhaps a little more with freshness of legs.
I’m very at ease not to see him play again got us and have a huge pack and bench.
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| I haven't seen the match ,just listened to it on the radio. The commentators were suggesting that we hadn't made any tries of our own but had swooped on Cas mistakes to score ,worrying if that's the case.
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| Quote ninearches="ninearches"I haven't seen the match ,just listened to it on the radio. The commentators were suggesting that we hadn't made any tries of our own but had swooped on Cas mistakes to score ,worrying if that's the case.'"
A sign of a good side that makes the opposition compound with errors.
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| It's not true though. I'm sure Cooper finding Hill in a hole would be seen as our good play. Wrench's try took some scoring too. Most of their tries came from our penalties.
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| Quote ninearches="ninearches"I haven't seen the match ,just listened to it on the radio. The commentators were suggesting that we hadn't made any tries of our own but had swooped on Cas mistakes to score ,worrying if that's the case.'"
True, really worried about our lack of pace. It's a good job all our tries were handed on a plate and just required us to fall over the line.
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| Quote rubber duckie="rubber duckie"A sign of a good side that makes the opposition compound with errors.'"
Not even English
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| Quote ninearches="ninearches"I haven't seen the match ,just listened to it on the radio. The commentators were suggesting that we hadn't made any tries of our own but had swooped on Cas mistakes to score ,worrying if that's the case.'"
Luke gale also said that, absolute rollicking.
Unless you include Danny Richardson being inept at tackling as swooping on an error
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| Quote rubber duckie="rubber duckie"I’ve no issue if Austo plays or not, so long as bench supremacy isn’t compromised. Nice guy is Blake, but I have zero grace and goodwill tolerance.
=#4000FFAusto was unplayable 3 years ago and absolutely nailed on for man of steel, he hasn’t been remotely near that form since his leg injury in the summer of 2019.
Widdop is absolutely massive for us and looks very comfortable with Ratchford and Williams. That fluidity isn’t there with Austo in the halves this season.
He made absolutely no difference to the team when he came on. Not that he should, as a replacement, you can only want for that and perhaps a little more with freshness of legs.
I’m very at ease not to see him play again got us and have a huge pack and bench.'"
Only for about the first three months of the season, or so, until his one dimensional play was worked out by every opposition coach and defence. As you say, there's not the same fluidity with Austin, as there is with both Widdop and Williams. Austin just makes the overemphasised dummy, and that's his play book done. Cannot knock him for effort, but he lacks the ability of Widdop and Williams of playing the situation in front of him and quickly adapting to it. If he pulls on the Rhino's shirt and turns into Jonathan Thurston, I'll be very annoyed!
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It was Australian
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| Quote ninearches="ninearches"I haven't seen the match ,just listened to it on the radio. The commentators were suggesting that we hadn't made any tries of our own but had swooped on Cas mistakes to score ,worrying if that's the case.'"
Another angle to spin on it, as well as putting so much pressure on Cas to force the errors, to consistently go through much of the first half error free, applying so much pressure on Cas, there is little opportunity to be creative with ball in hand while capitalising upon the opportunity gifted.
On reflection, the most creative memorable moments of the game were created by 3 props…Hill and Cooper interplay in the first half gave Mamo a stroll and the Dave Chisnall’esk run from Mulhurn in the second. Both pure class moves. I’m buzzing today from that Mulhurn run. I’ll remember that.
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| Quote CW8="CW8"Well saints get favouritism for sure. Makinson obvious squirrel grip gets fewer games than Lineham for alleged squirrel grip (I have no doubt that he did it but it wasn't caught on the sky cameras like Tommy's).
Cooper shouldn't get more games out than paasi, as it was a far, far lesser incident, but he probably will.'"
Interesting you mention Makinson, he got 3 games reduced to 2 on appeal for a similar tackle to Cooper
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| Makinsons was deliberate and his feet left the floor. If Cooper gets the same punishment then it's laughable.
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| Watts also still had the ball, unlike the poor sod Tommy hit
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| Sending off sufficient for the Coops incident. (For me at least).
Did you notice Chris Hill took a wack when the Cas's players head went into Hills?
Hill did not look well at all.
That was a big knock which I thought the docs would have picked up on. Very concerning either way.
Decision on Charnley was correct.
Almost typical Wire performance. Running away with it, take the foot off the pedal and give penalty after penalty and we're staring down the barrel of a comeback.
Don't do it easy do we?
I thought John Wells made a very good point about Ashton. For all his tries, arguably his kicks and chase to the in goal area late in the 2nd half stemmed the Cas fightback and was his best piece of play.
Really hope we keep Ashton.
You can't teach speed, and letting Mamo go means we need a player like him.
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| Quote RogerMoore="RogerMoore"Interesting you mention Makinson, he got 3 games reduced to 2 on appeal for a similar tackle to Cooper'"
It was nothing alike! Are you on the disciplinary panel? Makinson jumped in with a lot of force to a player who wasn't stumbling! Very deliberate. What h Coopers in real time and I think it's harsh really to be given a red. Still if we win next week we are due to play you lot in the semi so no doubt it will be the same ban that Paasi got for hospitalising somebody!
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| Have we engaged Saints legal team for Monday.
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